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De Beer Downs Da Champagne

Just Imagine if the 4yo had a decent trainer and wore a set of alumites...

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In a sport where big money and cheap talk often count for more than delivery and performance, the Overlord gelding Talktothestars’ bold and brave victory in Saturday’s R1 million Gr1 Tsogo Sun Sprint will surely go down as one of the most memorable moments of the season.


Talktothestars storms clear under the top-class Piere Strydom

Vaal-based Coenie de Beer must be South Africa’s most underrated Gr1 trainer of the 21st century.

The less than conventional owner-trainer has less frills than an army issue underpants – and refreshingly calls things as he sees it.

With Talktothestars safely following in the two-berth, a jovial De Beer spoke to the Sporting Post en route home through the Free State dorp of Warden.

“We really don’t know how good this horse is. And just imagine if he had a decent trainer and a set of alumites,” he quipped with a cocktail of humour and humility – and in a playful reference to his widely frowned upon rejection of aluminium shoes.

This was the 57 year old Vryburg horseman’s first Gr1 winner – not bad for a guy who pays relative small change for his horses, has less than ten in his string and who fired all farriers ages ago.

He conceded that there were reservations that Talktothestars would find his weight a trainstopper.

“I spoke to the Handicappers and asked them to explain why they gave my horse 6 points after the Computaform and Carry On Alice, who had beaten him, only 4. They rambled on and I never understood their rationale. After this win, I must concede that they may well have been right. I will let them do their jobs – I will do mine – which is winning Gr1 races,” he laughed

Carry On Alice beat Talktothestars by a length in the Computaform Sprint

Carry On Alice beat Talktothestars by a length in the Computaform Sprint

De Beer said that Talktothestars had the most wonderful temperament.

“In the parade ring before the race, the previous Gr1 presentations were still on the go. Talktothestars just stalked around the ring, focussed on the task at hand. He is an unbelievably professional athlete and has an admirable will to win.”


Talktothestars lead in

It’s smiles all round as Angelique Jordaan and Coenie de Beer lead in Talktothestars and Piere Strydom after the great win

Multiple champion jockey Piere Strydom has not taken long to assert his superiority after a three month injury enforced absence and in under a fortnight has bounced back with five winners from 21 relatively limited riding opportunities – including a double on Saturday, incorporating this welcome Gr1 success. This was his 4997th win since he became a fully-fledged jockey – another 5000 milestone celebration should follow shortly!

Striker has a 100% win rate on the gutsy Talktothestars after he previously won a modest handicap at the Vaal on the Coenie de Beer galloper.

And while the star jock also had his reservations about Talktothestars lumping topweight in a classy field of sprinters, he rode the 4yo with his typical commitment and positivity to produce a dream outcome, storming past fellow Gautenger African Ruler to win easily by 2,25 lengths in a time of 67,41 secs.

Exelero ran on best for third, with the long rested Red Ray partly vindicating the late betting support, when not disgraced in fourth.

The Scott Brothers-bred Talktothestars is a son of one-time record-breaking Aussie yearling Overlord, a son of world champion sire and successful sire-of-sires Danehill, out of a half sister to Royal Academy.



He is out of the one-time winning Spaceship mare, Tellittothestars.

Scott Brothers also bred winner Bold West – when the race was still known as the Gilbeys.

The winner was bought by De Beer for R40 000 in what has turned out to be a bargain package deal from Scott Brothers.

Talktothestars took his stake earnings with Saturday’s win to R1 529 575 and has now won 9 races with 5 places from his 23 starts.

In an earlier interview the thrilled trainer recalled how he had secured his good sprinter.

Scottbros“Talktothestars went through the ring unsold at the National 2yo Sale. I liked him and offered Mr Scott R50 000 for him. But he was in a bad mood that day and turned my offer down. A few months later we did a package deal and Talktothestars was included in it. I knew the family well as I had trained some and they could all run,” he said.

We asked if there had been any big money offers for Talktothestars?

“No – and anyway what would I do with all that money without a great horse like this?”

And where to now?

“He pulled up sound as a bell and the manger was empty. We will go back home and possibly return for the Post Merchants. I think that will suit him,” said Coenie.


Gr1 Tsogo Sun Sprint (SAf-Gr1)

Scottsville, South Africa, June 4, R1 million, 1200m, turf, good, 1.07.41

1 – TALKTOTHESTARS (SAF), 60.0, b g 4, Overlord (AUS) – Tellittothestars (SAF) by Spaceship (ARG). Owner Mr F C De Beer; Breeder Scott Bros; trainer FC de Beer; jockey P Strydom
2 – African Ruler (SAF), 53.0, b g 3, Trippi (USA) – Chant De Nuit (SAF) by Caesour (USA)
3 – Exelero (SAF), 53.5, b g 5, Western Winter (USA) – Landaulet (SAF) by Badger Land (USA)
Margins: 2.25, 0.15, 0.75

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11 comments on “De Beer Downs Da Champagne

  1. hilton witz says:

    a lovely story and one which we desperately need so much more of in south african racing..sort of reminds me of joe janiek and takeover target..well done mr de beer

    1. Editor says:

      Agree Hilton. Thanks for the comment

  2. Marcel smith says:

    Coenie has always had a good eye for a horse buying at bargain basement this win goes to a guy who throughly deserves it and makes one feel there is still hope of finding a gold mine at the bottom end of the game .Lets hope someone wants to pay a few pounds to Mr De beer so he can buy some more SALE horses ,but I am not sure he will sell ,but money does talk ???????

  3. Louis Goosen says:

    Whether Coenie sells or not, that decision will always be on his own terms. That’s the kinda guy he is. And that’s how he has Trained his horses all his life – on his own terms.

    Go and visit his yard anytime – you will find it immaculate. I have never seen a de Beer horse appear to lack anything. With his spend and his results, he surely inspires many more of the normal Owners than anyone else out there does…..

    A job brilliantly done !

    1. Editor says:

      Hear, hear

  4. hilton witz says:

    the mercury sprint coenie at weight for age should be his next race and hopefully he is as effective on the bend as up the straight

    1. Zietsman Oosthuizen says:

      He had no problem with the bend at flamingo park when winning his 3rd race. Will again smash the field on wfa terms in mercury

  5. Andre says:

    Hear, hear to the comments on The Stars success. My best wishes to Coenie.
    One Question tho’ ……. Is this the start of the up-country and Cape domination of the Natal feature season?

    1. Extravagantlyhorseracing says:

      the domination has happened since the rinderpest, its been blurred slightly since the “relocation” of top trainers via the sattelite yard system.

      To quote Barry irwin, trainers at Milnerton must be magicians to churn out the quality horses with the decided lack of quality with their training facilities.

  6. zietsman oosthuizen says:

    Welgedaan coenie !!!!! Top top klas ou maat

  7. pmb says:

    Never mind MR etc . The horse has run consistently, frequently, and against good horses in all centres , all season. He even tried different distances. A great training feat and very well deserved accolades to horse and trainer

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