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Vaal Trainer Only Open Player?

R2 million Pick 6 projected - but trainers are mum

The first-timer and rested horses comments listing for Saturday’sTurffontein meeting saw only the Ashley Fortune yard providing information to Joe Public.

The comments, kindly provided by the Phumelela Publishing Department, should be a valuable tool for the punter and assist in cases of first-timer ability and readiness, and as indicators of fitness where horses are rested.

Ashley Fortune – only trainer who made a comment

A Phumelela spokesman told the Sporting Post that when trainers enter their horses they have the option to add a comment. It is not a condition.

The meeting had the added attraction of a R500 000 carryover injection into the Pick 6 pool, which was expected to reach R2 million.

The false rail was set at 4m on the back straight to 7m on the bend, with a 7m spur at 500m mark.

These are the comments for the Turffontein meeting:


1 BELLAGIO KING A B Fortune: Nice horse, looking for further

2 BRAVE DEPUTY G M Alexander: No comment given

3 GOLDEN TUNE D Nieuwenhuizen: No comment given

6 KOOL BAIKAL R R Sage: No comment given

8 MASTER TOBE J J van Vuuren: No comment given

9 OPENING GAMBIT S J Gray: No comment given


1 MAROON BELLS J A Soma: No comment given

5 14:35 – MARK MASTER’S FM 74 HANDICAP (F & M)

1 JAMESON GIRL C Dawson: No comment given


11 PEACE CALL ME S J Gray: No comment given

In media reports recently, trainer Joey Soma urged his fellow-trainers to help punters by providing sensible pre-race information.

Soma said: “I have not been giving comments myself, but I decided recently to give punters access to as much info as possible. Punters are getting bored, they are losing interest and we need to do everything we can to keep them in the game.”

Joey Soma – call not heeded?

Soma also made the valid point that trainers are wary of being proved wrong, or putting their owners in the middle.

“But there is a way of commenting that will keep everyone happy. We see too many ‘will need the run’ horses that fly up to win and nothing annoys a punter more than thinking he has been lied to. Worse still is ‘no comment’, of which I was guilty of but I look at things in a different way now.”

Soma concluded: “The days of the big coup are gone. The market establishes the runners in race fairly, reflects what’s going on. You can maybe get R10,000 of a horse, or a bit more, but the big money is no longer there to pull off massive betting coups. We must look after the punters we have left, give them the info to win. It will benefit all of us.”

Somebody needs to take the lead.

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12 comments on “Vaal Trainer Only Open Player?

  1. Anver says:

    Well said Joe when can we expect you to let us have your comments on your horses .
    Thanks Joe used to follow your comments when structuring my pick six .
    Go for it big joe.

  2. Cecil Pienaar says:

    Thank You Mr Soma. So, you will give comments from next Race Meeting onwards ?

    ” Race 4 Today (1) Maroon Bells J.A Soma – No Comment given ”


    1. Editor says:

      Hi Cecil
      Mr Soma’s quoted comments urging his colleagues to come to the party were made weeks ago 🙁
      So it is puzzling

  3. mothilall bhikraj says:

    Thanks for your efforts Mr Soma, I remember standing next to you on one July day when you had a horse entered, standing like a common man among the have nots. I respect you for this. Yes punters make a difference in the kitty and in the excitement of horseracing.

  4. Joe Soma says:

    Dear Editor

    Apologies for not having a comment with regards to Maroon Bell’s running today.
    There could have been some sort of confusion with the system due to his withdrawal at the start on the 4th of July.

    I strongly believe in what I stated in the above article and would like to extend this as an open invitation to Sporting Post, to contact me for any information regarding the runners in our yard, for the benefit of all punters.

    Happy punting!
    Joe Soma

    1. Editor says:

      Thanks Joe – we will take up the offer
      Appreciate the response

  5. Patricial says:

    Hi joe-highly appreciated,, i congrat some of the presenters on course that ask the trainers and jockeys for their next best for the day,,, but some presenters did not ask that,,, it is valuable information for our punters to structure our exotic bets

  6. hilton witz says:

    The pick 6 pool ended up at a touch over 4m which was double the estimate and on july day at greyville at 22 million about 40 percent above the estimate is there any reason for these super pools as many on here said the pick 6 was dying because of the no coupling rule …

  7. Cameron James says:

    How do you keep the punters in the game?

    Simple,afford them every opportunity to win! From the majority of the comments that are posted on these threads, punters seem to talk from their pockets.It’s all about the money….

    Make the visit to the racecourse for the punter worthwhile, introduce interaction between the trainers and jockeys to the race goers.

    When a trainer fancies his or her horse surely can let the punter know their thoughts on raceday?

    As Justin Snaith so commendably mentioned on the Winning Ways show that he loves the punters to win, that should be the mantra for all trainers!

    Maybe a trainer can comment why they are so apprehensive in divulging information?

  8. Cameron James says:

    Mr. Ed even a guy like Mr. Robert Bloomberg, aka. The Ringer, if he occasionally studies the cards and posts his assessments for all the readers on your publication will see a lot more readers of your lovely newspaper.

    The guy, well from past experiences, is astute and a shrewd studier of form. Brilliant and concise.

    As for Mr. Soma he was an excellent guest on under starters orders a few years back. He could nail his colours to the mast and we use to watch the horses come sailing in. Great form studier and it’s a shame we no longer have these guys on those shows.

    Last but not least the Snaith racing team, they could be the ambassadors of this game for years to come, let’s get them to be more involved with the racing public. Create the hype……..

  9. Devan Govender says:

    I’m my personal opinion, with regards to first timers, Trainers that mention no comment should not be published at all!At the end of the day that know that the horse will probably either need the the run,or looking for further or just running to get an idea of what distance to look for in the future.

    Most punters rely on comments,especially on having a pint on the nose,should they prefer a particular first timer, together with a favourite jockey,/trainer and owner combination too!

    It’s really a waste of printing ink and paper ,to read just no comment!Rather not publish those trainers comments at all!!!

  10. Devonp says:

    Well Said Joe. Underrated trainer and hopefully my Brother Mayesh and partners will give you more horses.

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