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Cape Trainer’s No To Singapore

Their loss is our gain

Joey Ramsden has decided against moving to Singapore to train. He will now presumably stay put at his Milnerton base and concentrate on trying to build up the stable to its former glories.

Michael Clower writes on www.goldcircle.co.za that Ramsden, who has gone out of his way to be helpful to him in the past, has not answered his calls or text messages in recent weeks and Monday was no exception.

Two top men – Mike De Kock and Joey Ramsden

But Singapore Turf Club executive Zenna Teo emailed: “We would like to inform you that Mr Joey Ramsden has decided not to train in Singapore.”

In April the Singapore Turf Club took Ramsden and the rest of South African racing by surprise when it issued a press release to say that he was one of three new trainers being allocated boxes.

Apparently he had only made inquiries and had not told his owners but he said he would fly over and have a look. He was soon singing the country’s praises and pointing to the advantages of its racing compared to that in South Africa, although he did say what a complex process it was to set up there.

With the possible exception of Charles Laird (who retired), Ramsden was the trainer who suffered most when Markus Jooste decided to quit racing in the immediate aftermath of the Steinhoff financial scandal.

His numbers slumped from well over 100 to the extent that he moved to a smaller yard and the majority of his horses were not of the same class as the Jooste ones. He has really battled in the first few months of this season and has had only two winners.

But Singapore’s loss is South Africa’s gain.

Ramsden is one of the few trainers in this country to have won Gr1 races overseas and at home he was won more than 1 750 races including 26 Gr1s, notably the 2016 Vodacom Durban July with The Conglomerate.

He also has the personality to attract owners and a world-wide reputation that is likely to attract further patronage from overseas.

He has recently updated his website to publicise an attacking policy that extends countrywide, saying: “The yard regularly raids Johannesburg, Durban and Port Elizabeth. With the recent success of the Johannesburg stable we are looking to make that yard a permanent fixture and, with a 10% stakes winners to winners strike rate, we believe our results speak for themselves.”

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14 comments on “Cape Trainer’s No To Singapore

  1. Ken van Der Merwe. says:

    Just got to shake the dust off and get back to his former glory. Wish him all the best in this tough economy.

  2. Gordy says:

    A hard luck story can become a good luck story and vice versa.

    I copied a paragraph of the article written by Michael Clover and changed the story. Which is more appropriate?

    My changed paragraph
    With the possible exception of Charles Laird (who retired), Ramsden was the trainer who benefitted the most when Markus Jooste decided to expand his racing after making a massive llegal fortune when at Steinhoff.

    For comparison purposes the original paragraph is
    With the possible exception of Charles Laird (who retired), Ramsden was the trainer who suffered most when Markus Jooste decided to quit racing in the immediate aftermath of the Steinhoff financial scandal.

    Hard times and good times are depend on the eyes of the beholder.

  3. Philip Goldberg says:

    Top trainer, who had plenty success before Jooste, and will bounce back.

  4. JD Harms says:

    Sorry, not a fan of him.. His actions in the July draw was disgusting!

  5. Oscar says:

    A fantastic trainer ,who was responsible for the great horse Variety Club will definitely rise again to the top.

  6. Daryn says:

    Mike de kock looked after and trained variety club in Dubai and hk but ramsden took credit for it anyways not knocking him but plenty of his horses don’t see a racetrack and are broken down before reaching the course

    1. karel says:

      you have of course ample evidence to back up your allegation of ‘plenty” don’t see a racetrack and are broken down.
      Please share it with us?

  7. bob kistnasamy says:

    Regrettably, the racing industry is in a downward spiral currently and a large number of individuals are affected. Joey Ramsden was one of them. It shows that when considering growth or expansion, the dependence on one individual can set one back to a great extent, as evidenced by the Joostes.Major players (large scale owners) already have a home with trainers and that is the reason why trainers should come up with some creative ways to bring in new players and simultaneously expand their business.

    Bringing in small bit partners not only introduces new players but looks at growth in the sector.

    Joey is one of our colourful characters and I am certain that he will bounce back.
    All the luck Joey.

  8. warren says:

    Good news, good trainer, good character with a spice of humour….got worried when I heard about Singapore…..had good results in the past , looking forward to Joey producing top results again.

  9. Daphne D says:

    He has had a serious downfall taken from the nhra website


    2019 to date – 3.7% wins – 2 winners
    2018 -10.5% wins -42 winners
    2017 – 11.7 wins -58 winners
    2016 -13.2% wins -62 winners
    2015- 12.3% wins -59 winners
    2015-14.3%wins- 90 winners

    The heydays of good horses and well paying clients have ended. The fall of Markus Jooste has taken its toll. Joey Ramsden has always been a capable trainer just like all the owner trainers. With the Markus Jooste rise and fall he stays just another ordinary trainer. Give any ordinary trainer a good horse and they will do good things with it.

  10. Ian says:

    Definitely not the friendliest chap around. Singapore much better off

    1. Editor says:

      He never pretended, Ian

  11. Nico says:

    Well sadly not being the friendliest chap around bites you in the bum eventually. No Jooste, his pretty much done in the country.

  12. Lance Rooplall says:

    Lesson. Don’t put all your eggs in the same basket.

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