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Soqrat Now A 133

The NHRA handicappers have reported on their domestic feature race ratings analysis for the past weekend.

 Gr3 Victory Moon Stakes

SOQRAT has had his merit rating raised from 131 to 133 after the Australian-bred import made light work of beating a dozen rivals in the Victory Moon Stakes over 1800m at the Vaal on Saturday 9 November.

Runner-up GREEN HAZE was considered highly unlikely to have run below his rating in a race of this nature and was used as the line horse.  Accordingly, his rating remains unchanged.

Soqrat – exciting season ahead (Pic – JC Photos)

Third placed MASTER MAGIC went up from 100 to 106, but fourth placed ROY HAD ENOUGH has been dropped from 118 to 116.  Fifth placed AL MUTAWAKEL goes up from 98 to 103.

In other drops, SEVILLE ORANGE goes from 112 to 109, SOLDIER ON has been trimmed to 106 from 107, NOBLE SECRET drops to 111 from 114, UNAGI goes from 110 to 107, and SECOND REQUEST drops from 107 to 100.  In fact, SECOND REQUEST had already dropped to 104 after the publication of the weights for this race and was given a further four-pound reduction after finishing last here.

Listed Gardenia Stakes

NICKY NOO has had her rating increased from 93 to 99 after her “boardroom” victory in the Gardenia Stakes for fillies and mares over 1000m at the Vaal on Saturday.

NICKY NOO crossed the line a neck behind original winner SINGFORAFA, but after an objection had been lodged the result was amended and NICKY NOO was declared the winner on the grounds that she had been visibly impeded by SINGFORAFA when coming to challenge the latter for the lead.

SINGFORAFA nevertheless goes up from 108 to 111, while third placed NAWAASI is up from 85 to 93. Fourth placed ULLA was considered to be the correct line horse here and as such remains unchanged.  Fifth finisher RIO’S WINTER goes up from 96 to 99.

Several horses had their ratings dropped.  POOL PARTY goes from 104 to 102, DANCING QUEEN drops from 103 to 101, WINTER WATCH drops from 99 to 97, DALAI’S PROMISE goes from 104 to 102, and CAPTAIN’S GIRL has been dropped from 108 to 106.

National Horseracing AuthorityListed Laisserfaire Stakes

CASUAL DIAMOND has had her rating increased from 98 to 105 after she captured the Laisserfaire Stakes, a handicap for fillies and mares over 1100m at Kenilworth on Saturday.

Runner-up MUSHI STEREK was raised from 96 to 101.  The Handicappers were of the view that third placed FREEDOM CHARTER was the correct line horse to use and so her rating remains unchanged.  Fourth placed IN THE STARS also runs to her rating and as such she also remains unchanged.

Numerous drops were made, with CANUKEEPITSECRET trimmed from 110 to 109 and RUSH HOUR GIRL dropping to 93 from 94.

CROWDED HOUSE was dropped from 93 to 90, Celestial Storm goes from 108 to 104, and LESEDI LA RONA drops from 100 to 99.

Listed Woolavington Stakes

STRATHDON’S rating remains unchanged on 109 after he won the Woolavington Stakes over 2400m at Kenilworth on Saturday.

Both he and runner-up GIMME ONE NIGHT ran to their marks and effectively both become line horses, which naturally means that GIMME ONE NIGHT’S rating also remains unaltered.

Third placed KAMPALA CAMPARI is also unchanged, but fourth placed SILVER DE LANGE was raised from 86 to 90.  In contrast, fifth placed HERODOTUS was dropped from 112 to 110.

In other drops, DHARMA goes from 99 to 98, BALLAD OF THE SEA was dropped from 86 to 81, and PACIFIC CHESTNUT was cut from 98 to 96.

  • Press release by NHRA on Tuesday 12 November 2019

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20 comments on “Soqrat Now A 133

  1. Barry says:

    I don’t understand- how does horse that comes second get no adjustment but horse that comes third goes up by six MR points ?

  2. Frankie says:

    Frankie Zackey…MR Ed…I would like to share a bit of important information to SP concerning JHB horses competing in the coming Cape season…I was told by trainer X today that will be taking horses down to the Cape that the worst case scenario is that horses travelling to the Cape will be in quarantine for a period of 14 days maximum… trainer X knows what he’s talking about if anyone that needed to do his homework about the outbreak and to find out exactly where they stand is trainer X… it’s no thumb sucking bit of info that was passed onto me when I asked the question…

    1. Editor says:

      Good news, Frankie

  3. Frankie says:

    Frankie Zackey…Absolutely Mr Ed just imagine MDK and S T not having runners in the Queens Plate And Met…J S and E S if i were you guys i would start planning plan B and C from now…

  4. Jonathan Harris says:

    Barry, it’s simple really. The 3rd horse ran an improved rating and the second horse to his existing rating.

  5. Graham says:

    The blind handicappers again over raiting runners and it’s going to force de kick to take him abroad like all others and get a proper raiting wonder who he’ beat to get to such a high raiting he should be mabe 110 or less even
    The line runners are used to guid the ratings of runners in all races in South Africa but that runner is never declared publicly thus we stay confused when ratings are adjusted as a line runner can run 2 lengths behind winner and winer will have raiting adjusted

  6. Steve Reid says:

    Geez it seems that karel has expired. Some of the comments here would have had him exploding previously. Perhaps the who said it is more important than what is said?

    Pacifiers as suggested by Frankie Zackey seemed to have worked, good thing because my next suggestion was gelding.

    1. karel says:

      I had a few days off. Drove to ‘Die Hell’ in our 4×4 Beastie, quite an experience.
      Half and half expected to see you there, but no, we were all on our own!

    1. karel says:

      For real! Scary.

  7. Cecil Pienaar says:

    😂 Die Hel…. My SkoonMa se ‘aftree oord’ eendag 😂

    1. Editor says:

      Brave man this Maritzburger

  8. So SP have Soqrat rated 124 AR (lbs system/key)

    NHA have Soqrat @ 133 (half kgs system/key)

    A bit a arithmetic for the sake of comparisons….

    NHA = Soqrat 133 less 10 MR points for Mr. Moodley’s rollerskates he gave every horse to go faster

    Therefore, 123 NHA merit rating = 61.5 kgs which converted to pounds/lbs = 135.6

    So Sporting Post’s AR of 124 as compared to NHA’s MR concoction of 135.6

  9. Barry says:

    Thank you Jonathan- could you explain one more thing for me – all pundits said Soqrat cruised in and beat a week field with ease – yet he gets 2 point MR increase and 3rd horse gets 6 points- yet he was “well beaten”

    1. karel says:

      Everything is relative.
      The official handicapper used the runner-up as the pivot, and assumed him having run to his rating.
      Then all other are adjusted accordingly – and if their rating is higher than before their rating goes up, never mind how far they were beaten. It’s all relative.

  10. Soqrat’s NHA 133 -10 = 123 (kg basis) indicates that he would be able to get within 4 lengths of the worlds greatest ever miler, Frankel – 129.7 ~ 130 kg MR

  11. Nigel says:

    William , Frankels final rating was 140 .I may be wrong but think south African ratings have already been dropped by 5 before this latest drop so to get an equivalent international rating it would be 118 which would be about right (top rated horse in the world is rated 128 this year )

  12. Nigel, Frankel was awarded a 143 in lbs for a 1600/mile run, irrespective of any South African NHA concoction, now or past

  13. Nigel, you have it a bit mixed up.

    Soqrat current 133 (half kg base) including MR. Vee Moodley’s 10 point SA MR hijack would equate in lbs terms to : 66.5 kgs converted to 146.5 lbs …. that makes Soqrat the best horse of all time over 1600 to 1800m

    Frankel wouldn’t be able to live with him

    Lekker ne` !!

  14. Jay August says:

    I’ll ask this question once more from the Illuminati and hopefully get an answer this time. How does one square the Hong Kong official rating of Beauty Generation (138) with his WBHR rating of 127 and his Racing Post rating of 128. Is Hong Kong implying that Beauty Generation is only 2 pounds below Frankel?

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