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Another Foveros?

Is nothing sacred?

When the 6yo Foveros (FR) won the Heed Your Hunch @betway Handicap, the final race of Tattersalls Irish Guineas weekend at the Curragh on Sunday, we wondered if he was permitted to carry the same name as the eight-times British-bred SA Champion Sire, who died suddenly in 1994?

The ‘new’ Foveros wins at the Curragh on Sunday (Pic – Curragh Racecourse)

A winner of 5 races, three over hurdles, from 16 starts, the Willie Mullins trained galloper is a son of Authorized and was bred by Virginia Fragiskos & S C E A Haras Du Hoguenet.

After racing in Europe early in his career – he was Gr1 placed in France and rated 121 with Timeform – our champion Foveros scored three Gr1 wins in South Africa at 5 and 6.

1982-Gr1-JB-Met-FOVEROS

Foveros

He was Champion Sire here 8 times and sired 17 Gr1 winners – 39 graded winners in all.

Foveros was as good with colts as fillies, with sprinters and milers as with stayers.

Amongst his best progeny were multiple Gr1 winning stayer Aquanaut, sprinters Simonside and Fulfillment, sprint/miler Enforce, and milers Singing Boy and Miss Averof.

The NHRA’s Hazel Kayiya told the Sporting Post that for Foveros to be included under the  International list of protected names, he would need to meet one of the below requirements:

Prior to 1996, horses who are internationally renowned, either as main stallions and broodmares or as champions in racing (flat or jump)

From 1996 to 2004, the winners of the nine following international races:

South America : Gran Premio Carlos Pellegrini, Grande Premio Brazil;

Asia : Japan Cup, Melbourne Cup ;

Europe : Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe, King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes, Queen Elizabeth II Stakes; and

North America : Breeders’ Cup Classic, Breeders’ Cup Turf.

Since 2005, the winners of the eleven famous following international races :

South America  : Gran Premio Carlos Pellegrini, Grande Premio Brazil;

Cox Plate (2005), Melbourne Cup (from 2006 onwards), Dubai World Cup, Hong Kong Cup, Japan Cup;

Europe : Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe, King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes, Irish Champion;

North America : Breeders’ Cup Classic, Breeders’ Cup Turf;

Horses who are honoured in any ceremony related to the year-end ranking produced by the Longines’ Worlds’ Best Racehorses Rankings Committee.

Under breeding stock: protection is given to:

Broodmares who have produced at least two Group 1 winners and one other Black Type winner.

Stallions who have produced at least 15 Individual Gr1 winners.

Only those Gr1 races listed under the Part 1 of the international cataloguing standards would qualify for consideration.

So shouldn’t Foveros’ name be protected then?

Please tell  us what other big names you can recall that have cropped up in the past few years.

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16 comments on “Another Foveros?

  1. WILLIAM MILKOVITCH says:

    SA’s greatest horse to sport green & black silks, Windjammer, has had to tolerate his name been soiled in England, Japan, Germany & USA with them “Morris Minor” horses masquerading as gallopers.

  2. WILLIAM MILKOVITCH says:

    Horse Chestnut, SA’s greatest horse of all time has had his name dragged through the mud @ Fairyhouse, Listowel, Gowran Park, Naas, Clonmel & God knows were else by a Point to Point & 2 time winner !

    I’ve never being the same man since…

  3. WILLIAM MILKOVITCH says:

    And then to top it all, the Snaith trained Horatius thinks his got a new pair of roller skates. He tries his luck twice @ Durbanville, nothing nothing.

    Poor Horatius, the greatest 1400m straight performer in the world must have turned in his grave.

    And to think that the Snaith’s lived so close to Lennie Taylor, what a cheek hey!

    Oh goodness, I give up.

  4. Harold Narainsamy says:

    Heavy Metal was a name of our July winner and another horse in Dubai

  5. Adrian Holloway says:

    Hi William…to my mind the greatest SA horse to carry black and green silks surely has to be the mighty Sentinel…certainly not Horatios…LOL…

  6. Adrian Holloway says:

    Sorry…I mean not Windjammer…

  7. WILLIAM MILKOVITCH says:

    Good morning Adrian,

    Oh, I completely agree with you but I just couldn’t help myself.

    It’s in the sea of love for Windjammer that I need to drown in. lol

  8. Dev Govender says:

    Memory is getting a bit shaky, so the below may be subject to correction:

    I think we’ve had duplications of Ertijaal and Hawwaam (although perhaps the spellings might have differed by a single letter in both cases?)

    Another one that comes to mind is Forest King, very good sprinter from 1984-86 era, with an earlier namesake from decades prior.

    Then there is the Argentine-bred champion Potomac who commenced his career here in 1985. But barely a year earlier, we had a local-bred Potomac trained in KZN (I believe his sire City Bank was a teaser at the stud in question).

    Red Bishop – the more recent version was a stayer, compared to his speedy namesake from the early 80s, who I think held the course record for 1000m at Scottsville for many years.

    Golden Miller – Cape horse from the 80s who won a couple of listed events (Woolavington, Settlers Trophy?). Appropriate that he was a stayer since the original Golden Miller won the Cheltenham Gold Cup five times and also picked up the Grand National along the way.

  9. Hilton witz says:

    Nothing could top whoever locally named a horse scarlet lady that was the ultimate insult to one of the greatest sprinters this country has seen

  10. WILLIAM MILKOVITCH says:

    Those were bloody good horses.

    Golden Miller, Cheltenham Gold Cup winner (1932, 1933, 1934, 1935, 1936) He brought the nation to a standstill.

    Scarlet Lady, champion lady sprinter and Red Bishop a 1000m specialist.

    Shame, & look what happened to poor Hawwaam.

    Nothing wrong with your memories, Gents

  11. Lynton Ryan says:

    In amongst all that interesting info starting with Champion Sire Foveros’ name being repeated and mentioning his so called top progeny, Teal was omitted, he won as a 3 year old the Gr1 SA Guineas, Daily News 2000 and July Handicap in 2 months, a real Triple Crown. Not a surprise he could run, he was out of the dininutive and only daughter of Northern Dancer to grace our paddocks, who was a three part sister to derby winner Shareef Dancer and Champion Sire Dancing Champ and from the direct family of Zenyatta.
    Another gem found in Book 5 at Keenland by Robin Scott, similar to the dam of Politician.
    Lest we forget

  12. M(artin)Gram(matica) says:

    Eldoriza. Peculiarly now trained by Frank Robinson who I think was assistant to Herman Brown Snr who trained the “original”.

  13. Ada says:

    Party Time, a dual Gr.1 winner on the track, whose influence continues to this day. This blue hen’s namesake, a colt by Vercingetorix, won at Scottsville recently.

  14. Dev Govender says:

    Just remembered two more horses from the early 80s whose names were cloned more recently: Golden Chance (tough campaigner through the divisions) and In Camera (Cape Fillies Guineas for Mr Millard).

    Also from that era, Queen’s Elect – but not sure if I’m hallucinating about there being a more recent version?

    The recent juvenile feature winner Ambiorix, who we might see in action next week, is an interesting one – I seem to remember the earlier version as the sire of Ambiopoise

  15. Luigi Morelli says:

    Giants Castle top sprinter in the mid seventies. I have seen this name used recently.

  16. Harold Narainsamy says:

    Bond was a good KZN trained sprinter in the 80s or 90s. A horse called Bond ran 4th today in the Cape

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